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سمير أميس
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الصورة الرمزية سمير أميس
 

سمير أميس is on a distinguished road
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اكرر سؤالى لك :من هم قدماء المسيحيون الذين نفوا صلب يسوع؟ ولماذا نفوه؟

تحياتى
يا عم سيبك منه هذا يريد تبرير تخاريف القران في نص يحوي اخطاء لا يقع فيها اجهل الجهال التي تقول ان اليهود قتلوا المسيح بينما لا يوجد يهودي على وجه الارض على مدار التاريخ اليهودي كله يقول بهذا التخريف فهل اليهود ينتظرون مجئ المسيا لكي يقتلوه كما يخرف الجاهل مؤلف القران .. عدا عن تضارب كل العالم الاسلامي حول طلسم هذا النص القراني الذي يخرف فيه محمد قائلا :

وَقَوْلِهِمْ إِنَّا قَتَلْنَا الْمَسِيحَ عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَٰكِن شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ ۚ وَإِنَّ الَّذِينَ اخْتَلَفُوا فِيهِ لَفِي شَكٍّ مِّنْهُ ۚ مَا لَهُم بِهِ مِنْ عِلْمٍ إِلَّا اتِّبَاعَ الظَّنِّ ۚ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ يَقِينًا (157)

فلا يوجد مسلم على وجه الارض يعرف معناه ولا محمد نفسه شرحه لهم وطبعا كما قلت عدا عن تخاريف الجاهل محمد بان اليهود قالوا انهم قتلوا المسيح !

صلب يسوع التاريخي اجمع بالاجماع وها هم اليهود انفسهم معترفين بانهم قتلوا يسوع .. يسوع هاااااااا وليس كما يخرف مؤلف القران الجاهل انهم قتلوا المسيح اذ اليهود رفضوا ان يكون يسوع هو المسيا المنتظر ولا يزالوا ينتظرون مجئيه الى اليوم (عدا اليهود الذي امنوا به من زمن يسوع الى يومنا) ولا يوجد يهودي على وجه الارض يقول انهم ينتظروا مجئ المسيا لكي يقتلوه كما يخرف الجاهل مؤلف القران


The Crucifixion

In handing over their prisoner to the procurator, Pontius Pilate, the Jewish officials refused to enter the pretorium as being ground forbidden to Jews. They thereby at any rate showed their confidence in the condemnation of Jesus by the Roman power. Before Pilate the sole charge could be attempted rebellion against the emperor. In some way, it would appear, the claim to be king of the Jews (or possibly of a kingdom of heaven) was made before him by Jesus himself, as is shown by the in******ion nailed up in derision on the cross. To Pilate the problem presented was somewhat similar to that which would present itself to an Indian official of to-day before whom a Mohammedan should be accused of claiming to be the Mahdi. If overt acts in a disturbed district had accompanied the claim, the official could scarcely avoid passing sentence of condemnation; and Pilate took the same course. But he seems to have hesitated: while condemning Jesus, he gave him a chance of life. It appears to have been the practise to grant to the Jewish populace the privilege of pardoning a prisoner on public holidays; and Pontius Pilate held out to the rabble surrounding the pretorium (for most responsible heads of families must have been at this time engaged in searching for leaven in their own homes) a choice between Jesus and the other Jesus (bar Abbas), who also had been accused of rebellion. The mob had naturally more sympathy for the avowed rebel than for the person who had recommended the payment of tribute. It chose Barabbas; and Jesus was left to undergo the Roman punishment of Crucifixion in company with two malefactors. He refused with some not overkindly words (Luke xxiii. 28-31) the deadening drink of frankincense, myrrh, and vinegar which the ladies of Jerusalem were accustomed to offer to condemned criminals in order that they might pass away in an unconscious state (Sanh. 43a). Whatever had been Jesus' anticipations, he bore the terrible tortures, due to the strain and cramping of the internal organs, with equanimity till almost the last, when he uttered the despairing and pathetic cry "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?" (the Aramaic form of Ps. xxii. 1, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"), which showed that even his resolute spirit had been daunted by the ordeal. This last utterance was in all its implications itself a disproof of the exaggerated claims made for him after his death by his disciples.


http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/ar...-nazareth#1007

فها هو اعتراف الجناه اليهود انفسهم بقتل يسوع من دائرة المعارف اليهودية ..

قتلوا يسوع .. وليس المسيح يا مؤلف القران الجاهل الذي لا تعرف الالف من كوز الذره !



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